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		<title>Infidelity Meaning: They just want more babies</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Babymaker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[People fail to look at the obvious biological facts. Infidelity meaning is just that, they just have an instinct to make more babies. Sex is a basic instinct to make more babies. So stop with all the emotional gibberish and get down to the biological facts so you can deal with it better. I have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>People fail to look at the obvious biological facts.  Infidelity meaning is just that, they just have an instinct to make more babies.  Sex is a basic instinct to make more babies.  So stop with all the emotional gibberish and get down to the biological facts so you can deal with it better.<span id="more-412"></span></p>
<p>I have been observing friends in anguish over this very simple matter of infidelity and its meaning.  Why they are so wrapped up in their religious fantasies and moral shenanigans.  Basic instinct, sex, has no morals.  And the parties involved would rather burn in hell than not get what they want.  What they want is more babies, sex is just the action that is required.</p>
<p>Take the case of a young mother with 2 children, married to a foreigner husband.  Wife wants more babies, husband foreigner does not&#8230; he comes from a very contraceptive culture.  Wife disagrees.  Wife gets local male &#8220;lover&#8221; / baby maker.</p>
<p>Foreigner husband has young Filipina wife and has 1 child and 1 child only.  Foreigner has 4 children elsewhere, his former wife, an old girl friend.  Young wife goes bad, gets in fights with him, goes out at night partying&#8230; and rapes her husband as often as she can.  She calms down&#8230; she&#8217;s 3 months pregnant.  Peace and quiet for the husband.  Just hope it&#8217;s his.</p>
<p>Wife has 2 kids with husband.  Wife gets ligated / had her tubes tied.  Husband then starts coming home 4am &#8211; 5am every single day.  And what should he come home to?  A wife who can only offer contraceptive sex?  A wife who did not consult him but selfishly thought of herself only as she did not want any more children?  What makes her think her husband only wants contraceptive sex for the rest of his life?</p>
<p>Humans have this basic instinct that sex is for making babies.  And no modern contraceptive practices are going to demolish this basic instinct.</p>
<p>- Sex gets old with the same partner after a few months of no babies.<br />
- Sex is tons of times more exciting if there is that possibility of babies.</p>
<p>Humans are survivors.  Contraceptive men and women who do not want to have any more children will be left eating the dusts of infidelity by their partners who just want to have more babies.</p>
<p>And this brings me to the decisions that these couples must take.  Again for the benefit of children.  It is detrimental to keep divorcing, and divorcing and divorcing.  Who&#8217;s going to take care of your mutual children?  </p>
<p>The solution is to keep it all together.  Addition, without subtraction.</p>
<p>This is a new age contraceptive society problem.  The expectations are ridiculous.  Just because you lead contraceptive lives where you get to have unlimited sexual intercourse without getting pregnant is just un-natural.  Nature didn&#8217;t make sex that way.  Unlimited sex without babies is monotonous not worth it sex&#8230; It gets old pretty quickly.</p>
<p>Wife had a hysterectomy after 2 children.  Husband keeps his monogamous vows.  Wife gets hornier and looks for an additional sexual partner&#8230; says husband should get his additional sex partner too.  </p>
<p>Husband is devastated why this is happening to him and thinks of divorcing his wife.  Wife can&#8217;t do any &#8220;harm&#8221;, her core being tells her she wants more  babies. so she will have sex and sex and sex&#8230; but it will never ever be possibly due to her hysterectomy.  And this is what her religious husband needs to understand.  Keep it together.  Her sexual thing will soon pass, she&#8217;s in her mid 40s.</p>
<p>Life isn&#8217;t black or white.  If you are truly pro-family and pro-marriage, pro-life, you accept your situations and biological realities and still keep your living children at the top of your priorities.  It&#8217;s addition without subtraction.  Let the reproducers have at it.  Men and women do not necessarily have equal number of babies between them.  Live with that reality.</p>
<p>The happy ending of this blog post is that it benefits your mutual living children.  Divorcing or completely dumping existing children to grandparents is foul and reeks of complete selfishness.  We are educated humans and we need to overcome short sighted jealousies, the meaning of infidelity is they just want more babies&#8230; their very souls are craving for more babies.  Those who have made their &#8220;quota&#8221; may selfishly refuse to understand this.  But think of that time when you still hadn&#8217;t reached your baby quota.  Now you know.  Think.</p>
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		<title>Family Oriented Women, Superior Women, Fertile Islamic Women Ensure the Success of Islam</title>
		<link>http://www.pronatal.org/2011/08/13/family-oriented-women-superior-women-fertile-islamic-women-ensure-the-success-of-islam/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 00:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Babymaker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Documentary from a Christian / secular point of view recognize and somewhat admire the success of the propagation of Islam. Not by evangelization or conquest, but via birth rates, higher fertility rates. And who to thank for the Islamic success? Islamic women! Yes, Islamic women have baby making power. Islamic women practice both monogamy and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Documentary from a Christian / secular point of view recognize and somewhat admire the success of the propagation of Islam.  Not by evangelization or conquest, but via birth rates, higher fertility rates.  And who to thank for the Islamic success?  Islamic women!  Yes, Islamic women have baby making power.  Islamic women practice both monogamy and polygamy.  Islamic women are less contraceptive.  And it seems Islamic women are more family oriented.  Success, success, success!<span id="more-395"></span></p>
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<p>This is a wake up call to Christians or those who think they are Christian.  These Christians can only think about evangelizing to others, but they cannot even shepherd their own flock.  Christian / post christian / secular women make far less babies.  Christian baby making systems suck, inferior.  Christian women mostly suck at baby making.  That is the wake up call.</p>
<p>Seems Islamic women are happier?  Islamic family system makes for happier women?  Islamic diets are more nutritious?  Islamic women have more resolve to make more babies and raise more babies?  Islamic women have better&#8230; higher quality sex? Or is it that Islamic women do not believe in the kind of sexual promiscuity being promoted in Christian / post Christian / secular societies? Maybe Islamic women are treated BETTER? Islamic women are happier?</p>
<p>Call to action?  Make more babies.  Contraception and promiscuity don&#8217;t work and only serve to obliterate families.</p>
<p>So, is it time to say, if you can&#8217;t beat em, join em?</p>
<p>Stop hating the Muslim women and admire them and point out what seems to be working for them.  Maybe if your culture adopted some key aspects of Muslim women, you can still save your own culture.</p>
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		<title>The Destructive Effects of Divorce</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2011 03:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Babymaker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This website is pro-marriage, pro-polygamy, pro-family, anti-divorce. Don&#8217;t let the narrow minded monogamy advocates shove out polygamy. Polygamy is marriage. And more so committed with even more conservative values. I believe in addition, not subtraction. For the good of the children, you as hell make your marriage work&#8230; not as facade, but for real. Divorce [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>This website is pro-marriage, pro-polygamy, pro-family, anti-divorce.  Don&#8217;t let the narrow minded monogamy advocates shove out polygamy.  Polygamy is marriage.  And more so committed with even more conservative values.  I believe in addition, not subtraction.  For the good of the children, you as hell make your marriage work&#8230; not as facade, but for real.<span id="more-391"></span></p>
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<p>Divorce is ridiculous.  There is no biological divorce in the first place to speak of.  Biologically that child is still part mother and part father, there is no divorcing that FACT.  What is important is for people&#8217;s commitment to children and everything else will work.</p>
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		<title>How Monogamy Really Works&#8230; Hard Truth.</title>
		<link>http://www.pronatal.org/2011/06/05/how-monogamy-really-works-hard-truth/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Babymaker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A young raw paleo dieter from Poland is getting married soon and asks an innocent question about his true sexuality about monogamy and polygamy and what he is feeling lately. This idea of mono/poly-gamy occupies my mind a lot recently. I am getting married this summer and it might be the reason why it kicks [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>A young raw paleo dieter from Poland is getting married soon and asks an innocent question about his true sexuality about monogamy and polygamy and what he is feeling lately. <span id="more-388"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>This idea of mono/poly-gamy occupies my mind a lot recently. I am getting married this summer and it might be the reason why it kicks in now. Because, funny enough the closer it is to wedding date the more I am in touch with my raw male energy that includes approaching women I do not know, flirting, physical contact, taking risks, wanting to show off with my good qualities and impress women I am attracted to but do not know yet very well.  </p>
<p>All of this was in the state of sleep before and it kicks in in this very moment. I know this might be a part of fear of commitment- I think everyone have it and need to deal with it.  But on the other hand I do not find my emerging desires unhealthy or unwelcome. It is good to feel all of this, regardless of what voice of my culture and my own superego has to say about it. And in my own mind it is nothing untruthful and bad too. Because the interesting thing is that my love to my fiancée is at its peak right now. It is my conscious decision to marry her and existence this desires to flirt with other women does not mean that I do not  love her or I got tired with her or anything else. I know it is how she would think when she happened to know about it (she does not) and she would feel hurt and let down and unloved. But the fact is: in my male eyes I do love her and respect her and appreciate her and still long for sexual contact with other women.</p>
<p>And I am in really fucked up situation about it because:<br />
1) I cant even bring it up with her because even discussing about it would hurt her and could spoil our bond together<br />
2) I cant just act my impulses out freely &#8211; it would be cheating &#8211; it is too stressful for me, and I have too much respect for her to risk the possibility of her embarrassment disappointment.<br />
3) I can pretend everything is ok and give up this part of myself as I was doing my whole life, but hey it is a vital part of me that is real and very important. Maybe someone suggests that I should work on bringing back the fire between us, into the relationship. But I think it is not possible &#8211; 10year old relationship has different kind of &#8220;fire&#8221; &#8211; we still have great intimacy and sexual relationship but it is definitely not the same thing that I described in first part of this post.</p>
<p>So i start to wonder..is it me or has our culture gone astray in regards to our sexuality at some point? And it it is the case, what is ideal model? Because giving up marriage or lifetime relationships do not seem to work very well as we can see in swingers communities.  </p></blockquote>
<p><strong>HOW MONOGAMY REALLY WORKS&#8230; hard truth.</strong></p>
<p>Healthy men have abundant sex drive to go around. (you are raw paleo so you will have abundant sex drive until you die of old age)</p>
<p>You are normal.  Your thoughts are normal.</p>
<p>I will give you a tip on how monogamous marriages really work in the 21st century and has so in the past 20th century:</p>
<p>1. Man really loves his wife.  Wife (#1 wife material woman) really loves husband.</p>
<p>2. Wife initiates sperm wars before marriage and during marriage&#8230; see chick flick (movie) &#8220;Love Affair&#8221; 1994.  Women like being DISCREET.  Males like you must defend yourself by ensuring all the children she gives birth to are yours by DNA / Paternity Tests.  If a child is not yours, you let your entire clan know woman has cheated your ENTIRE CLAN.  Child is not your child, child is not their nephew, child is not their grandchild.</p>
<p>3. Man realizes wife does not match his continuous sex drive.  Women do not like sex when it is menstruation related, when they are sick, when they are pregnant, when they have just given birth, when they don&#8217;t want additional children.</p>
<p>So man resorts to mistresses (you have a child with her), f*** buddies, prostitutes (now called escort services, massage parlor attendants, KTV girls, etc.)</p>
<p>The trick here is that the ideal monogamous man knows his #1 love and commitment of time, money, effort is his #1 wife.  And the ideal monogamous man is DISCREET about all this.  He does not advertise to his #1 love that he &#8220;gets it off&#8221; of other women.  So make sure you have extra money for yourself, do not surrender all your money to your #1 wife, you have your own money for your sex budget&#8230; all the while still keeping your commitment to your #1 wife and #1 wife&#8217;s children.</p>
<p>The #2 and #3 women / mistresses are totally attracted to monogamous discreet males like you.  They absolutely adore / love that you are happily married, that you are ENDORSED by a #1 woman.  They just want a piece of your time and your sperm for their child.  They don&#8217;t ask much like your #1 woman.  If they want to be #1 you need to drop them.  So do not give your complete identity and complete contact numbers to these women so they don&#8217;t go crazy and call your #1 wife.  You don&#8217;t want that.</p>
<p>You can give a copy of the book ETIQUETTES for MISTRESSES by Julie Yap Daza to your mistresses so they know their place.</p>
<p>This is what I can say a template of how monogamous marriages / societies really work to balance out the sexual needs of people.</p>
<p>As you can see the women all just want a piece of you.  They don&#8217;t want to be around you all the time.  If you stick like a lizard to a woman she will feel choked to death, not able to breath, women need space, they don&#8217;t want a man to be there 100% of the time.  It is this realization in ISLAM monogamy that a good number of wives is 3 to 4 wives per good man.  If you talk with islamic women, they are happy with this arrangement and they like this arrangement.  Same with FLDS women&#8230; see reality show &#8220;sister wives.&#8221;</p>
<p>The bottom line is you man &#8212; make lots of money &#8212; much much money &#8212; and no wife will complain.  It is only when man lacks money that women complain.  So make sure you make lots of money.</p>
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		<title>Amazing 21 Year Old Woman Has 5 Children, Is 2nd Wife of 4 Muslim Wives</title>
		<link>http://www.pronatal.org/2011/02/10/amazing-21-year-old-woman-has-5-children-is-2nd-wife-of-4-muslim-wives/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 12:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Babymaker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You never know what personal story you unfold in the market stalls these days. Aren&#8217;t you curious about those women in the dry market goods section of your big wet market, the ones with the Islamic / Muslim fashion, with the shawls? I chanced upon to chat with a nice young lady this afternoon. She [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>You never know what personal story you unfold in the market stalls these days.  Aren&#8217;t you curious about those women in the dry market goods section of your big wet market, the ones with the Islamic / Muslim fashion, with the shawls?  I chanced upon to chat with a nice young lady this afternoon.  She was 21, already had 5 children, is the 2nd wife of 4 Muslim wives.  Astonishing and at the same time, thought it was pretty much true.<span id="more-372"></span></p>
<p>Hayni is from Iligan City and she says she got married at age 12.  She says it was pretty normal even until today for Muslim women to get married at age 12, she says there are even 7 year old child brides.  This is how she has 5 children at a young age of 21.</p>
<p>Hayni says she is the 2nd wife of 4 wives.  She and her sister wives are all dry goods, clothes, baby clothes sellers in the same wet market.  And their husband is too.  I asked, if all of you are out selling and working, who is minding the children?  She says her father and mother are.  And there are a total 16 children among them 4 wives.  Cool.  Wow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like my daughters to get started marrying and making babies at 18 years old.  But 12 is too young for my taste.  Well, different strokes for different folks.</p>
<p>If you are complaining that the Muslim population is growing leaps and bounds beyond non-Muslims, you now know why.  Muslim women are just darn happy baby makers.  Unlike non-Muslim women who mostly dislike baby making so much.  Non-Muslim women are usually over priced princesses who begin as contraceptive bimbos and try to delay making babies well into their 30s.  Islamic women will win the future with their wombs!  Viva Islamic women!</p>
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		<title>Sister Wives: Hot, Popular, Out to Make Polygamy Legal and Acceptable!</title>
		<link>http://www.pronatal.org/2010/12/06/sister-wives-hot-popular-out-to-make-polygamy-legal-and-acceptable/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Babymaker</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just recently stumbled onto an American reality show courtesy of The Learning Channel or TLC of Discovery, aptly named &#8220;Sister Wives&#8221;. This is a show documenting the daily lives of a real fundamentalist mormon polygamist family. This is REAL, not the fiction that was HBO&#8217;s big love. Sister Wives is more interesting because this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://www.pronatal.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Sister_wives_publicity_photo.jpg"><img class="alignright size-medium wp-image-364" title="Sister_wives_publicity_photo" src="http://www.pronatal.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Sister_wives_publicity_photo-300x199.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="199" /></a>I just recently stumbled onto an American reality show courtesy of The Learning Channel or TLC of Discovery, aptly named &#8220;Sister Wives&#8221;.  This is a show documenting the daily lives of a real fundamentalist mormon polygamist family.  This is REAL, not the fiction that was HBO&#8217;s big love.  Sister Wives is more interesting because this is REAL.<span id="more-362"></span></p>
<p>This reality show revolves around the 3 sister wives and their man / boy &#8220;plaything&#8221; husband who tries his best to serve all the wives and all the children.  Note that everyone strives to serve everyone.  The 2nd wife is a career woman and their combined income with the husband is enough somehow to feed the entire family of 16 when the season started.  Later on we see the birth of their latest child.  At the end of the season we see the family take in a 4th wife who already had 3 children from a previous marriage, oh happy day.</p>
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<p>As a non USA citizen I have a better appreciation of this because I don&#8217;t have anything against Mormons or Fundamentalist Mormons or Polygamists.  Muslims can have up to 4 wives in my country and mistressing is rife with the Christian population so it&#8217;s no big deal for this writer.</p>
<p>What did intrigue me is what I read about the outdated USA laws against polygamy, against people who want to live their lives the way they see fit and the state horning in and breaking up solid families like these in the past.  Clearly, this so called &#8220;land of the free&#8221; is not free at all.  This hypocritical USA laws strictly enforce a one to one / pairing arrangement be they man-woman, woman-woman, man-man.  This USA hypocrites will push homosexual &#8220;marriages&#8221; and at the same time trample down the rights of polygamists.  Such intellectual dishonesty!</p>
<p>What I can analyze from this show is this is what the polygamists are waiting for, some family brave enough to step into the spotlight and announce to the majority of the USA that we are the shining example of commitment to marriage, commitment to children, commitment to family&#8230; how dare you prosecute polygamists when we, we, we polygamists are the bastion, the rock, the guiding light for TRUE MARRIAGE&#8230; something only you divorce ridden Americans can only dream of.</p>
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<p>I do note that in an old YouTube video, I had seen the 3rd wife in this show appear with a known polygamy advocacy lobbyist say test cases should be filed, &#8220;Bring it on.&#8221;  So I can see clearly that season 2 of the show will high light the legal challenges to the family, the persecution they receive from the community that despises their kind.  Already, their first wife had lost her job because of the show and the husband claims slow business.</p>
<p>I hope the popularity of the show generates enough income for the family so that they can continue to thrive.</p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen any episode of the show, you can always download from the torrents or buy a complete DVD of season 1.  It&#8217;s a beautiful documentary.  You will fall in love with this family.  They will teach you what true marriage, true family is all about.</p>
<p>I had always written many years ago that I am waiting for polygamy to be the knight in shining armor to save the world from childless, loveless, marriage-less, fornication ridden, decaying western society.  Let the polygamists lead the way, to show the rest of humanity how its done.  Polygamy is the time tested successful formula of community building.  Oh I know the imperial depopulation conspirators are just so very angry with this show and what it could mean if polygamy catches on.</p>
<p>Bring it on, bring on Sister Wives Season 2: March 2011.</p>
<p>Visit the <a href="http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/sister-wives/" target="_blank">Sister Wives Official Website.</a></p>
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		<title>Esther Stanford: Polygyny Makes Sense &#8211; Family, Marriage, Nation Building</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2010 23:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[polygyny :A topic viewed with Taboo (from new Motherland FILM (2010) www.themotherland.info)is broken Down by Esther Stanford a progressive African specialist on Polgamy. Polygamy was and is a vital aspect of African culture. It was how nations and kingdoms were birthed. Beyond the taboo Europeans placed on it Polygamy was and is part of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>polygyny :A topic viewed with Taboo (from new Motherland FILM (2010) www.themotherland.info)is broken Down by Esther Stanford a progressive African specialist on Polgamy. Polygamy was and is a vital aspect of African culture. It was how nations and kingdoms were birthed. Beyond the taboo Europeans placed on it Polygamy was and is part of the African reality rooted in practicality. This is a bonus extract from the 2010 film MOTHERLAND by Owen Alik Shahadah,. <a href="http://www.themotherland.info">www.themotherland.info</a>.<span id="more-359"></span></p>
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<p>Probably the best and most comprehensive explanation of why polygyny is pro-family and is better than rampant serial marriages, mistressing, prostitution.</p>
<p>Esther Stanford explains why strong economies are based on strong families and polygyny can form the foundation of a rich future for africans.</p>
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<p><a href="http://vimeo.com/16364653">POLYGYNY | POLYGAMY &#8211; In Africa</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/user2642519">Halaqah Films</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>
<p>Polygamy/Polygyny expert Esther Stanford gives a sharp and profound scholastic food for thought on polygamy and African people.</p>
<p>Polygamy became taboo with Colonialism due to the conflict with inheritance in large families, the social-economic threat caused by increased African populations and the Eurocentric Christian values.<br />
However today polygamy is still a reality and is becoming an option in the African Diaspora in response to a social dilemma. Polygamy within the framework of law and balance is a viable aspect of African family systems which is exited from Kemet to Sokoto.</p>
<p>Perception of African self has been so given to us by the “other” that it is hard to distinguish what is indigenous intelligence and what is a product of mental conditioning because of the European dynamic.</p>
<p>There is a great confusion around modernity with progress and development and too often Westernization or more specific Europeanization is collapses into modernity.</p>
<p>African people must objectively re-examine structures that were the backbone of their historical development in an attempt to successful engage in modernity. </p>
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		<title>Polygamist, Businessman, 4 Wives, One House &#8211; All Happy</title>
		<link>http://www.pronatal.org/2010/09/12/polygamist-businessman-4-wives-one-house-all-happy/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a picture perfect example of how polygamy works and works really well. Everyone is involved. Everyone plays their part. This article is focused on interviewing the husband. But we have featured other polygamy success stories where the wives were the ones interviewed. This success story is in KUALA TERENGGANU, Malaysia. Arifin Mohamad believes [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Here is a picture perfect example of how polygamy works and works really well.  Everyone is involved.  Everyone plays their part.  This article is focused on interviewing the husband.  But we have featured other polygamy success stories where the wives were the ones interviewed.  This success story is in KUALA TERENGGANU, Malaysia.<span id="more-346"></span></p>
<p>Arifin Mohamad believes in big numbers. He has four wives, 17 children and seven grandchildren.</p>
<p>Nothing really extraordinary in these parts, except for one fact — they all live happily under one roof.</p>
<p>(Usually, each wife and her children are in a separate house.)</p>
<p>And as in past, this Hari Raya Aidilfitri will be the same boisterous affair in the Arifin household, which the 60-year-old patriarch swears is filled with endless love and joy.</p>
<p>“Not every man can pull this off. You got to gave a lot of heart to keep it going,” he said at his sprawling 22-bedroom home in Kampung Tebauk. Bukit Tunggal, about 10km from here.</p>
<p>(I think the first stumbling block is money, though not mentioned in this article, but having lots of money to be able to support that big a house hold helps quite a lot.  And the entire household will respect him for that.)</p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.nst.com.my/nst/articles/Thesecrettoblissfulpolygamy/Article/#ixzz0zH4VQHkj">The secret to blissful polygamy</a></p>
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		<title>Elin Nordegren on Tiger Woods: The Last to Know about Affairs</title>
		<link>http://www.pronatal.org/2010/08/25/elin-nordegren-on-tiger-woods-the-last-to-know-about-affairs/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is what happens when you miseducate people about the reality of so called monogamous marriage and human sexuality. Monogamy does not exist in the minds of 99% of the male population. Human males are wont to spread their seeds and no amount of religious brainwashing or civilization will change that! Hey Elin, didn&#8217;t your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>This is what happens when you miseducate people about the reality of so called monogamous marriage and human sexuality.  Monogamy does not exist in the minds of 99% of the male population.  Human males are wont to spread their seeds and no amount of religious brainwashing or civilization will change that!  Hey Elin, didn&#8217;t your dad teach you this when you were younger?<span id="more-342"></span></p>
<p>Come on, you married THE CHAMP.  Spreading seeds is what champions do!  There is the reproductive rush in winning competitions and all that money.  Champs bedding lots of women is expected, it is the norm.  Welcome to human life 101.  </p>
<p>Divorce settlement for Elin?  Not bad, hundreds of millions of dollars. That&#8217;s great.  But wouldn&#8217;t it have been better if you and Tiger knew this tiny bit of information about human nature earlier?  Did you know you could have still lived a happy life with Tiger even if he had playthings?  You could have been the woman he truly loved, the woman to come home to, even if he spreads his seeds every now and then.  This is what champs do!</p>
<p>What is unacceptable is this much media outcry to castrate a champ like Tiger Woods.  In-human.  Life doesn&#8217;t work that way.  Monogamous marriage in the USA will come tumbling down with easy divorce clauses such as these.  It is idiotic.  Let the human race sort itself out to something more lasting and more solid.</p>
<p>In my country, moneyed men will play but have a budget for it.  It is poor form for them to leave their wives.  Some have multiple wives, an instituted polygamy whether formal or informal, but that is how things work.  And it has worked for several hundred years. Polygamy is outright legal and instituted for Muslims.  While there is no law against having multiple unmarried girl friends with many children each.</p>
<p>The Elen Nordegren &#8211; Tiger Woods divorce just highlights the USA wrong system of easy divorce and serial marriages.  Plain idiocy.  No one should bother getting married in the USA, it&#8217;s just a piece of paper enslaving men for unreasonable demands they get absolutely no benefit from.  </p>
<p>Keep your american junk system out of the Philippnes.  Gabriela anti-women / anti-family group stay out of the Philippines, go and migrate to the USA and be miserable like Elen Nordegren &#8211; miserable with so much money.</p>
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		<title>Happy Christian Polygamy Video &#8211; 22 kids! Awesome!</title>
		<link>http://www.pronatal.org/2009/10/23/happy-christian-polygamy-video-22-kids-awesome/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, these people are living their dreams. They are beautiful, healthy and wealthy enough to bear and raise 22 kids total. I bow to your technique. We can learn a lot from these awesome people. Youtube video description: Christian polygamy works. Two wives, plural marriage, or polygamy, is not abuse or manipulation of women, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Wow, these people are living their dreams.  They are beautiful, healthy and wealthy enough to bear and raise 22 kids total.  I bow to your technique.  We can learn a lot from these awesome people.<span id="more-307"></span></p>
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<p>Youtube video description: Christian polygamy works. Two wives, plural marriage, or polygamy, is not abuse or manipulation of women, but is a perfectly normal AND happy way of life for many people in today&#8217;s society. CHRISTIAN POLYGAMY PAMPHLET: http://www.box.net/shared/eq5qjxm12n</p>
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