Comments on: Men degraded, enslaved by agreeing to contraception http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/ Fight for our right to normal sexuality and fertility. Pronatal, Pro-Life, Pro-Family. Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:59:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jenny http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/comment-page-1/#comment-6846 Jenny Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:14:21 +0000 http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/#comment-6846 There is definitely a cultural issue here, not just a man/woman thing. I personally respect a man more when he is willing to stand by his own beliefs and maintain his boundaries. If he is an alpha male, I don't want him to pretend he is not. If he wants to make and raise babies, then he should. I wouldn't want to be told that I had to be something that I am not. Feminists should remember that. There is definitely a cultural issue here, not just a man/woman thing. I personally respect a man more when he is willing to stand by his own beliefs and maintain his boundaries. If he is an alpha male, I don’t want him to pretend he is not. If he wants to make and raise babies, then he should. I wouldn’t want to be told that I had to be something that I am not. Feminists should remember that.

]]> By: admin http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/comment-page-1/#comment-84 admin Sat, 31 May 2008 01:26:57 +0000 http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/#comment-84 Funny, contraceptive minded people posting here. For your information I get a lot of REAL SEX. Pronatal men attract pronatal women. Pronatal women flock to pronatal men. Funny, contraceptive minded people posting here.

For your information I get a lot of REAL SEX.

Pronatal men attract pronatal women.

Pronatal women flock to pronatal men.

]]> By: Roflcopter http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Roflcopter Mon, 26 May 2008 08:23:54 +0000 http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/#comment-83 This is funny shit. The fact that you sexually fetishize impregnation wouldn't be that strange or even unusual by itself. What's bizarre is the fact that you've built an idiosyncratic ethical code around your fetish in order to justify it to yourself. Comedy gold ensues! Please continue! This is funny shit. The fact that you sexually fetishize impregnation wouldn’t be that strange or even unusual by itself. What’s bizarre is the fact that you’ve built an idiosyncratic ethical code around your fetish in order to justify it to yourself. Comedy gold ensues! Please continue!

]]> By: wmdkitty http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/comment-page-1/#comment-82 wmdkitty Thu, 24 Apr 2008 05:55:45 +0000 http://www.pronatal.org/2008/04/04/men-degraded-enslaved-by-agreeing-to-contraception/#comment-82 Oh, where to start... I know, I'll start at the beginning! 2008-Apr-24 05:17 AM > Yes, a man *is* a wonderful thing. I have one. We, however, have discussed the matter and have decided not to breed. I am not physically capable of enduring pregnancy and labor, due to my disability. On top of that, being born prematurely myself, I am more likely to go into pre-term labor, presenting a danger to the (hypothetical) baby. > Not true at all. He's never had to beg for sex with me. Come to think of it, I'm more available for him *because* of contraception -- no worries about pregnancy, therefore I enjoy sex more, meaning I *want* it more often. > Yes, yes he is. And so are you, for blaming everything wrong with the world on women and contraception. > How so? Agreeing to unprotected sex with a woman who isn't on birth-control is a gamble -- What if she gets pregnant? Will I have to support a child I don't want or am incapable of supporting? Would she consider abortion? There are so many variables, that it's a wonder people even *have* sex anymore! Contraception enters the picture, and you don't have to worry about those things. > And yet so many women are unintentionally getting pregnant... Your logic fails. > Wrong. Society is dysfunctional because people like *you* want to impose *your* morality on *everyone*, and return us to the Dark Ages. I refuse to be a brood mare, house-slave, or second-class citizen. > We can't have our children learn how to protect themselves, or let them know they can prevent pregnancy by any means other than abstinence -- why, that's just UNGODLY! It must be the Feminist Conspiracy, keeping men from what's rightfully theirs! > I've found the opposite to be true. (I'm female.) Contraception frees me from certain biological worries, and allows me greater freedom to explore and enjoy my sexuality. I'm looking for an illustrated Kama Sutra, actually, to give my mate for Beltane. > So, women should be slaves to their biology, and thus, slaves to their mates, while men are free to do as they please? Ffft. Asshole. Oh, and "feminist religion"? Unless you're referring to Dianic Witchcraft -- and even *that* is a stretch -- there is no "feminist religion". > And that would mean swearing off all sex but the solo kind. > And you wonder why you can't get laid... Oh, where to start… I know, I’ll start at the beginning!

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Yes, a man *is* a wonderful thing. I have one. We, however, have discussed the matter and have decided not to breed. I am not physically capable of enduring pregnancy and labor, due to my disability. On top of that, being born prematurely myself, I am more likely to go into pre-term labor, presenting a danger to the (hypothetical) baby.

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Not true at all. He’s never had to beg for sex with me. Come to think of it, I’m more available for him *because* of contraception — no worries about pregnancy, therefore I enjoy sex more, meaning I *want* it more often.

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Yes, yes he is. And so are you, for blaming everything wrong with the world on women and contraception.

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How so? Agreeing to unprotected sex with a woman who isn’t on birth-control is a gamble — What if she gets pregnant? Will I have to support a child I don’t want or am incapable of supporting? Would she consider abortion? There are so many variables, that it’s a wonder people even *have* sex anymore!

Contraception enters the picture, and you don’t have to worry about those things.

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And yet so many women are unintentionally getting pregnant… Your logic fails.

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Wrong. Society is dysfunctional because people like *you* want to impose *your* morality on *everyone*, and return us to the Dark Ages. I refuse to be a brood mare, house-slave, or second-class citizen.

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We can’t have our children learn how to protect themselves, or let them know they can prevent pregnancy by any means other than abstinence — why, that’s just UNGODLY! It must be the Feminist Conspiracy, keeping men from what’s rightfully theirs!

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I’ve found the opposite to be true. (I’m female.) Contraception frees me from certain biological worries, and allows me greater freedom to explore and enjoy my sexuality. I’m looking for an illustrated Kama Sutra, actually, to give my mate for Beltane.

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So, women should be slaves to their biology, and thus, slaves to their mates, while men are free to do as they please? Ffft. Asshole.

Oh, and “feminist religion”? Unless you’re referring to Dianic Witchcraft — and even *that* is a stretch — there is no “feminist religion”.

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And that would mean swearing off all sex but the solo kind.

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And you wonder why you can’t get laid…

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